Mootoriõli ja muud määrded

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Postitus Postitas joonas » 21 Okt 2008 15:32

Kuna on vaja sisse valada ka roolivõimu õli hakkasin manualist vaatama, mida ja kui palju.

Tehase manual ütleb, et kasuta ATF Dexron II D õli.
Kasutaja käsiraamat ütleb, et kasuta "Approx. 0.63 U.S. qts. or 0.6 liter ATF Dexron®" õli.

Wiki väidab
DEXRON-VI was introduced in 2005. It was designed to replace all prior specifications, and is therefore backwards-compatible with applications calling for DEXRON of any type. It's chemical formula allows for improved shift feel, longer service life, and increased fuel economy.

Ehk siis peaks saama sisse kallata kõike alates Dexron II alates (Dexron III ja IV)?

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Postitus Postitas hellraiser » 21 Okt 2008 16:42

Ma olen sõitnud mõlemal autol roolivõimus mingi Teboili vedelikuga juba aastaid, siiani pole midagi sellel häda olnud.
Lekkinud on latid enne, peale tihendite remondikomplektiga üle käimist on kõik jäänud kenasti pidama ning pole see Teboili kraam sealt kuskile läinud.
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Postitus Postitas joonas » 27 Okt 2008 00:04

Leidsin poest Valvoline ATF D. Pudeli teisel küljel oli kirjas, et ette nähtud sinna, kus vaja Dexron II D õli.
Rennlisti ja Clark's foorumist käis läbi ühtne jutt, et sobib Dexron II ja Dexron III.
Kui ei ole Dexron tähisega siis ei sobi.
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Postitus Postitas laur4 » 27 Okt 2008 09:05

joonas kirjutas:Leidsin poest Valvoline ATF D. Pudeli teisel küljel oli kirjas, et ette nähtud sinna, kus vaja Dexron II D õli.
Rennlisti ja Clark's foorumist käis läbi ühtne jutt, et sobib Dexron II ja Dexron III.
Kui ei ole Dexron tähisega siis ei sobi.
Panin kevadel ka oma auto roolivõimendile sama õli sisse peale lati remonti. Senini pole probleeme olnud.

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Postitus Postitas joonas » 16 Apr 2009 11:51

Overview of engine oils approved by Porsche. 'Porsche Approval List'

From Porsche Cars, Great Britain Limited.
The engine oils listed in this Technical Information Sheet approved for the Boxster/Boxster S can also be unrestrictedly used retroactively for all 4, 6 and 8-cylinder Porsche engines from 1973 model year onwards.


http://www.landsharkoz.com/tt/tt_pao.htm

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Postitus Postitas joonas » 24 Apr 2009 10:38

Rennlistis tuli juttu sellest, millist õli peaks valama käigukasti/diferentsiaali.
Eestis peaks letis olema müüa
Shell Transaxle 75W-90
http://www.shell.com/static//au-en/down ... ential.pdf

Transaxle transmissions – Heavily loaded “transaxle” transmission where hypoid axle and gearbox are in the same housing and lubricated by the same product. Particularly in sport passenger car drive train systems. Automotive transmissions – Heavily loaded axle drives, synchronised and non-synchronised gearboxes.
Porsche Approved


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Postitus Postitas hellraiser » 24 Mai 2009 12:52

joonas kirjutas:944 ja 928 õlist juttu
http://www.landsharkoz.com/tech/bb/bbipr.htm
Ma olen siiani sõitnud mõlemas autos 5W-50 ja 10W-50 õlidega algusest lõpuni ja pole nagu täheldanud mingeid probleeme õlituses puudumisest vms.
Samas ma ei saa sellest jutust päris hästi aru, et kui ta ütleb, et 15W-50 ja üles on head, kas ta siis mõtleb, et 5W-50 on halvem variant või näiteks 15W-40 on halvem?
Igatahes räägib ta ainult *-50 õlidest.
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Postitus Postitas hellraiser » 08 Juun 2009 14:18

Kuskilt netiavarustest:

Whether it's evil stuff or good stuff depends on who you talk to. And a lot of what you hear from backyard mechanics is rumor and myth. Myth # 1 is the claim that you don't have to change Synthetic oil as often as regular motor oil. Remember when Mobil 1 said you could go 25,000 miles between oil changes with synthetic oil? Notice they haven't said that for a good number of years? Keep that thought on the back burner for now... Myth #2 is that synthetic oil causes oil leaks. In this article I'm going to try to dispell these myths for you with the cold hard facts about the differences and similarities between dino vs. synthetic oil.

Let's talk first about what "dino" oil is (Dino is short for Dinosaur, which is when it started forming). Dino oil is created from something called "Base Stock". Base stock what the oil companies get after they have processed the crude oil that comes from the ground. From there, additives are combined with the Base Stock, to create our motor oil. There are 7 main additives which include anti-foaming agents, anti-corrosion, etc, etc. At the molecular level, dino oil contains molecules of varying sizes. Imagine the floor of a gymnasium covered with basketballs, baseballs, volleyballs, and beach balls. Now imagine that all those different size "balls" are moving around, flowing past the floor. Every time a ball surface contacts the floor surface, the ball absorbs heat from the floor. That is how oil removes heat from your engine components, from surface to surface contact.

Now imagine the same gymnasium floor covered in uniformly sized golf balls. Smaller, more uniform molecules can absorb more heat from a surface, because there are more of them AND they have a larger surface to volume ratio which means they have more surface area contact. That's what synthetic oil is. A man-made "Base Stock", where all the molecules are the same size, and smaller than those in dino oil. Better heat transfer, better lubricating properties, and a lot wider temperature range without breakdown, are now obtained.

Myth #1 debunked

Oil does not break down under normal use. This is true of both dino and synth oil and is also the reason why you take oil to the Recycling Center and not the trash dump. So if oil itself doesn't ever degrade, why do we have to change it? The answer is twofold: additives and contamination. It will probably surprise you to learn that synthetic oil has all the same additives that dino oil has! The additives in oil DO break down, which is part of what necessitates oil changes. The other reason for regular oil changes is that with use, motor oil becomes contaminated (dirt, water, acids, etc). Using synthetic oil does not protect against either of these problems, which is why you CANNOT go further between oil changes when running a synthetic. You should still change your synthetic oil at the same intervals as you do with dino oil. Anyone want to guess how many claims Mobil 1 had to pay to people that were going 25,000 miles between changes?

Myth #2 debunked

Synthetic oil causing oil leaks is another commonly spread myth. The truth of the matter is that if all your engine seals and gaskets are in good condition, synthetic oil will NOT leak in your engine. The myth started because on occasion, an engine will leak with synthetic oil, but not dino oil. The reason for this is that the smaller molecules of the synthetic are able to get past very small crevices, where the larger molecules of dino oil cannot. But this does not mean that the synthetic oil has caused the leak, it simply has "discovered" an infant leak, and regardless of what oil you are running, this infant leak will eventually grow to a size that will allow dino oil to occupy and pass also. Synthetic oil has not been shown to deteriorate engine seals or gaskets. It is not some evil solvent that will break down sealant, or anything like that. Like was said earlier, it is just a man-made base stock, that is uniform and smaller in molecule size than dino oil. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Postitus Postitas joonas » 27 Nov 2009 12:12

On küll õli reklaam, kuid välja on toodud ka päris huvitavat infot.

http://www.joegibbsracingoil.com/Downlo ... oil101.pdf

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